Branch Out

Theme · 23 episodes · 2020–2023

Networking & Relationship Capital

Building, maintaining and drawing on a professional network — including what networking is actually for.

What the archive argues

The return on a network is almost never the thing people build it for. Dillon Zwick (Ep 022) ranks business development last, behind job security, friendship, and the 90 percent of a field's knowledge that never gets written down. Corrie Menary (Ep 057) says most people she meets will never be a deal source; her payoff is market intelligence and an associate hire who was not job-hunting. Ken Marblestone (Ep 060) has never predicted where business would come from, so he never asks for referrals.

What follows is unresolved. Paul Gray (Ep 056) says find the people with gray hair and skip your own age group, who hold no authority and compete for the same jobs. Mark Bober (Ep 030) declines meetings that waste a finite day. Thom Singer (Ep 076) answers that networks run up, sideways and down, and the junior person you dismissed remembers. Menary calls direct competitors her most effective network. Emily Ackerman (Ep 059) meets anyone; a barbecue franchisee once sent her business.

The register changes. Gary Lewis (Ep 001) opens in 2020 on disposition: listen first, build for twenty years out. David Swatosh (Ep 004) dissents early, reporting that fifteen years of external events slowed his career and that a specialist's internal network is the revenue engine. By 2021 it turns instrumental: Gray builds a media platform so he arrives with something to give instead of a resume, and Lori Gleeman (Ep 052) curates a referral network by exclusion.

Nobody defends working the room. Tom Boniface (Ep 002) calls copying the rainmaker's fifty handshakes optimizing your weakness, and Jeremy Holland (Ep 035) leaves conversations that do not click rather than work the crowd. No guest here argues that handshake volume beats fit, which leaves the large-event model most firms still fund without a defender. Satisfied guests count their network in people who would take the call, and all started before there was anything to show.

Where it splits

Episodes in this theme

Ep 025 · 2020

Investing in People

Jeremy Holland

Eighty people who will run through a wall beat five thousand business cards.

Ep 032 · 2021

Defining Business Development

Polly Mack, Heather Madland

Business development is an internal influence job as much as an external one.

Ep 041 · 2021

An Open Discussion on Diversity

Christine Nowaczyk, Rich Grant

Diversity in middle-market finance is an access problem before it is a hiring problem.

Ep 042 · 2021

Disruptive Leadership

Tom Bohn

Redefining what business you are actually in is the disruptive act.

Ep 070 · 2022

Diversity Equals Alpha

Leon Brujis

Diversity is not the right thing to do; it is where alpha comes from.

Ep 076 · 2022

Human Connection Catalyst

Thom Singer

Networking pays only if you stop keeping score, because the return arrives sideways.

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